1 Mar 2017

Awakened While Married - MGTOW

"I am in my early fifties, married for many years to my high school girlfriend. Many of the problems faced by young men now (including my own sons) we simply did not have. No history of the cock carousel makes a big difference in the specialness of a relationship. We generally follow the traditional roles that were successful for thousands of years. We have lived in a frugal way and tried to stay focused on the important things in life. But nothing is perfect.
I’ve made a few notes below after viewing many of your videos and added a few observations of my own. I don’t have a specific question but would welcome your comments on my notes or another topic of your choosing. Number one: MGTOW economics: The price of poon has become too high; a large supply at a high price and a shrinking demand means that the market does not clear. MGTOW is the segment of potential poon buyers that refuses to buy at the current price.
That price can be measured financially, emotionally, in life fulfilment, sanity, and self-respect. MGTOW serves a larger purpose, knowingly or not. MGTOW and the rational refusal of men to buy will eventually cause the price of poon to fall. The worst women and their useful idiot manginas now want to coerce MGTOW and others to buy at the current price. Vicious shaming tactics, and proposed unmarried man taxes are examples of this. Coercing men into yet another involuntary transaction at the cost of their lives will not work in a large system that has alternatives for red-pilled men. Eventually female behavior will change though it may require a degree of collapse and radical reform of their supporting institutions. The MGTOW trend could go to extremes: Can you imagine the response to men buying eggs from higher-quality women, completely bypassing the low-quality ones, and then raising children solo with a well-behaved robo-mom? MGTOW is right to hold a hard line. Number Two: MGTOW and your video essays have value for married people. Underlying MGTOW is a
basic desire for fairness. A relationship that structurally always gives advantage to females over men is bad for both. MGTOW red pills identify quite a few female (and male) behaviours in a perceptive, blunt, and unapologetic way. I have used these observations for myself and to red pill young men around me. I want them to see the truth, make their own clear-eyed choices, and live fulfilling lives. Number three: Many of the female behaviours that you discuss fade somewhat but don’t go away. They must be managed. Shit testing and other forms of manipulation always bubble up. There are varying degrees of NAWALT, but there is no 100%er. Men in long-term marriages should expect to push back if they want to live real lives. In my own experience, men tend to settle differences with some form of negotiation, then more-or-less hold to that agreement; their inter-relationships tend to be relatively long-term and stable. Relations and agreements between men and women are far less stable and constantly tested. Men in marriages cannot simply give up, put their heads down, go into ‘yes dear’ mode for their last few decades and expect anything other than a miserable life. And playing only defence means you can only lose or draw at best. A man’s mind is indeed biochemically muddled around women, especially in emotional moments. MGTOW red pills help men recognise bad female behaviours that they would easily
recognise and never accept from other males. Occasionally playing offence and deliberate push back are required to keep a long-term relationship respectful and viable.

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