MGTOW (and The Guess Who) Just Can’t Get Laid!?

razorbladekandy: This is the transcript for my video (read more). I’m rather surprised at the positive reception I got on my last cartoon. I really didn’t think it was anything special. In fact it was one of the most lack luster cartoons I made. But you guys seemed to enjoy it. I originally made a 15 minute version, slightly different, and decided that it was too long and too boring, and decided to polish up the speech a bit, change the perspective from, “this is what would happen if you gave a woman a truth serum”, to “this is what women sound like when you see the truth from taking the red pill.” Perhaps I’ll go ahead and publish the other cartoon.

Anyhow, this is a response to Theodore John Kaczynski.
He doesn’t identify as a traditionalist, but you can tell he is. You can tell this by the fact that he says MGTOW is just as bad as the feminists. This always gives the tradcon away. It is an open acknowledgement of their disapproval of feminism, while also disapproving of a male struggle for equality or autonomy. The one and only motivation for that is the desire to bring things back to “the old ways”. To restore the good ol’ 1950′s way of life or whatever. So any time someone says that “just as bad as the feminists” you know the thing they are against is change, and that they are regressive traditionalists, tradcons if you will, that want to restore the old fashioned ways.

But there are independent women who neither want nor need a man. So I am not sure I get your point.
This next part is a little amusing, you say, “Actually, they are more pathetic because most are financially successful men without children”.
Wait wait wait, I thought we were all fat, neck bearded, fedora wearing, virgins, living in our mother’s basement playing video games. Now we’re financially successful? Look, if you dim wits are going to insult us, can you at least get your baseless, hollow accusations, on the same page. I’m not asking for you to accept us; I’m just asking that your portrayal of us remain consistent.
Financially successful men with no children are pathetic? Since when? Oh because even with that, we can’t get a woman that will satisfy us. And you know this, how?
Your view of MGTOW is interesting, we’re a bunch of rich childless men who can’t get laid, and feminism is the reason, so we pretend to protest relations with women to spite feminism.
Buddy, you have no idea what the fuck you’re even rambling about. You’re angry, but I don’t think you know what you’re angry about.
This bit about “can’t get laid”. It is a popular attack against any man not on hands and knees begging for pussy. The moment a man stands up for his rights as a man, or calls out women on their bullshit, the first two things to be hurled at him are the accusation that “you hate women” and “you can’t get laid”.
And to that I ask: what’s wrong with hating women? Women openly hate men in public all the time.
Is there anyone in the audience that has even one female relative that hasn’t said something hateful, mean, or derogatory about the male sex? Such timeless catch phrases as:
“typical male”,
“typical male pig”,
“men are pigs”,
“they’re only after one thing”.
Women are as liberal with their contempt of the male sex as they are with breathing in and out. Sexism is only wicked, evil, scary, dangerous, when displayed by a male. It’s only a thing of bad moral character or a mask for psychological dysfunction, when done by a man.
So, in a world where women wear their misandry on their sleeve, school teaching, political office, church, childcare, cocktail parties, at home or at the office, in every walk of life, they proudly show off their misandry, what’s wrong with a little misogyny? And it amazes me how these people would never be so open with their hatred of other minorities, but men never seem to count as a minority.
In a world so ripe with misandry, why the phobia of misogyny?
And the second thing we hear often, is “you can’t get laid”.
Why does this matter? I suppose it could be used as an effort to explain the pathology of a person’s discontent.
For example, an employee at the office says, “man, I am getting fed up with working here. The conditions are unhealthy, the overtime is mandatory and I got kids that need to be picked up from school. The boss is always breathing down my neck, the pay is embarrassing, we’re treated like animals, every time the company loses a 2% quarterly revenue they start laying people off and hiring clueless new guys once they’ve balanced the revenue.” and you say to him, “you’re just pissed off that you didn’t get a raise.”
OK, maybe that is the basis for his complaining spell. But that in and of itself does not invalidate the claims. It may have prompted the outburst, but the claims themselves may be perfectly legit.
But what I really find interesting is when lack of “getting laid” is hurled at men as an insult. This is the thing that concerns me because it is an indication that a man’s worth is his ability to be granted sex and approval of women. This is gynocentric. No man should ever judge another man, positively or negatively, based on his ability to get sex from women.
Every time a man ridicules another man for not getting sex, he is validating the importance of female approval, thereby empowering women. This is anti-male. I’ll say it again, making fun of a man for not being able to get laid is anti-male.
Now let’s address this next part. Are Men Going Their Own Way living in their mother’s basement, or are they financially successful? To be honest, I don’t know. I’m sure it’s a mix of those two things and any where in between. I don’t think there has been an official survey. And even if there was, I don’t think under the circumstances we could trust self reporting.
But the MGTOW philosophy itself has nothing to do with financial success one way or another.
Next, can MGTOW “get laid”? Some can, some can’t, some don’t want to. I don’t know the averages. But because you’re angry, feel free to make up whatever helps you to feel better. If believing the men who are MGTOW, are men who can’t get laid, brings you emotional comfort, then please, continue telling yourself that.
Is MGTOW about pretending to give up sex? Well, no, I don’t think it is. And the reason I say that is, you can be MGTOW and be in a relationship, or even a male whore going from pussy to pussy. I happen to fall into the sex segregationist category of MGTOW, I believe Stardusk is another, and Barbarosssaa is an example of a MGTOW that continues to have relations with women. MGTOW is not about swearing off women (though many of them do).
Furthermore, and this is the thing you should really and truly have picked up on: it is not a protest against feminism; it is a rejection of men centering their lives, self worth, and identity, on the attainment and approval of women, and conforming to an identity based on the gender dynamics of gynocentrism.
Furthermore, feminism isn’t some temporary trend; it is a political and philosophical movement born out of the gynocentric nature of humans; namely the self centeredness of women that is innate in women. It was womens instinctive narcissism, self centeredness, and sexism towards men, that motivated their beliefs and political leanings. Due to the destabilization of the traditional norm in a capitalist post-industrialized world that feminism had, it was adopted by, promoted by, and to some degree funded by, communism. But what is important is to realize all this female favoritism (which is the core of feminism) is born from the instinctive nature of women.
You even pointed out that this so-called trend is among “American women”. Oh good lord, you’re one of these “To hell with American women, got to find yourself a foreign woman. I hear those Asian girls are submissive. Just gotta get your self a Filipino girl.”
You’re so fucking clueless mate. This isn’t an American phenomenon. Feminism has firmly engulfed the political landscape of all first world nations, and is slowly devouring all other nations. The reason it is prominent in the first world is simple: the misandry and gynocentrism which is the foundation of this thing called “feminism”, is always in women. It is when being sheltered by a hard working self sacrificing male is the path of least resistance, they stay in the home and feign submission. When the outside world becomes soft and easy, independence becomes the path of least resistance, and they want out of the home, and rampantly go on the attack. When outside conditions become harsh and brutal, they will drop there feminist rhetoric and get back in the warm safe kitchen. And then when it gets easy they will swear they’ve been shackled to the kitchen by patriarchy all over again. Women will keep this up because at the end of the day they’re all about whatever benefits women. And they also hate men (for complex reasons beyond the scope of this reply). Their selfishness, narcissism, and misandry, is in them for the same reason estrogen is in them; it’s a part of what makes them women. Hating men is a perfectly female thing to do.
But again, you guys and your “just got to get a good submissive foreign woman”. I swear I didn’t think you guys were still around. I thought ya’ll went out of style along with the Betamax and cassette tape. I swear, we live in interesting times. There are still people with CB Radios. In an age of the dirt cheap Smartphone, there are still people talking on CB’s. And there are still “gotta find yourself a foreign woman, foreign women are better”, type of men around.
Next, you claim a man cannot give up sex for a principal such as protesting feminism or whatever have you. Well, again I must point out MGTOW is not a philosophy of chastity and abstinence. But anyhow, you’re actually wrong. Men have throughout history taken religious vowels of celibacy; thereby giving up sex out of principal.
Speaking as a sex separatist MGTOW, I have not given up on ejaculation, I do that about once a day, normally first thing in the morning. Masturbation works wonders. I have merely given up seeking out relations with women. And have little to no desire to be in a relationship with a woman even if a reasonably good looking woman approached me and asked me out.
Dear Theo, it is rare that a person makes such a brief statement, a mere paragraph, and is actually this dead wrong. You said a whole lot of wrong in such a short statement. I like that, you took like 3 pages worth of stupid, and condensed that into a paragraph.
But I just can’t help suspect there may be some bitterness going on with you. Like, perhaps, you are a man who has based his worth on female approval, wasted half the money you ever made in life, in an effort to attract and impress them. And now you see this movement consisting of a large group of men, walking away from the game you’ve played your entire life, and lost. And again, I could be wrong about this, but I just picture you as a guy who’s cried buckets of heart broken tears, put in so much work, wasted so much money, and do not currently have that firm breasted perfect “ten” of a woman by your side. You’re entire life down the drain, and nothing to show for it. And you are just so pissed off at the men who’ve walked away from it all. There are men who are old and retired from the pussie chasing game. There are men who are young, and just don’t feel like starting the game and wasting their life going down that path. These young men, they’ll fuck some pussy when it sits itself in their lap, but they’re not buying the gold chains, the diamond rings, the expensive smelly aftershave, and the over priced goofy clothing, the artificial attitude, and beating themselves up to better perfect their pickup technique. You see this, and you’re angry, and you’re in denial. You scream “you haven’t really walked away from chasing pussy. You’re still centering your life, your time, your money, your effort, your identity and self worth, on the approval of women, you’re just in denial.” I think this is what you’re doing, and I think it’s jealousy that there are men who’ve walked away from the very game you’ve lost.
But of course, this is purely speculation. The only thing I can tell is, you use derogatory language, insults, accusations, thus it is clear that you are angry. Anger is typically a defense for sadness and fear. When you’re sad, hurt, scared, anger is a natural reaction. And I am merely speculating on why you might feel so hurt.

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