By Some say 1st wave feminism was the “good feminism”. Individualist, not collectivist. Not totalitarian, not hateful. Abolitionist. It only wanted freedom, equality, dignity for all. But then, later came the so-called Radical Feminists. So, this is going to be the easiest quiz on the internet.
Below there are just 7 quotes. Which of them are from a) suffragists, b) KKK members, and which are from c) modern times radical feminists? The answers will follow.
Ready? Suffragists, KKK or radical feminists? Go!
Left: Frances E. Willard
Right: Susan B. Anthony
Speaking of the feminist’s rhetoric, should Mr. Douglass exchange his sex as any way to prove his points about “the wrongs of the negro”? And isn’t it interesting Anthony’s attempt to exclude Douglass being born in slavery with the word today? If today he is not a slave but an important national personality, what would he be so upset about, uh? Well… maybe he was concerned with the status of all black people and their future in the US?
Just a reminder of who that Mr. Douglass was, especially for non-Americans:
Left: Frederick Douglass em 1879
Frederick Douglass (1818–1895) escaped his life as a slave in Maryland after 2 failed attempts. It was then hard to believe that someone with his background could be such a brilliant orator, writer, and statesman. He became close friend of personalities such as Abraham Lincoln. He, however, died seeing black people having advanced very little in the civil equality he so passionately fought for.
This is the man who, according to fallacious pioneer feminist icon Susan B. Anthony, “would not exchange his sex” with her friend, Lady Elizabeth Cady Stanton.
Douglass was also friends with Stanton – but then, the proposal for the constitutional amend giving blacks the suffrage before white women came. That was when “suffragist” leaders showed their true colors for the historical record.
Don’t be mislead by my sarcastic humor. This is ugly, and it is going to get worse.
Come back later, or see it all right away.
Gathering of Ku Klux Klan white knights – Yes, pun intended.
Ku Klux Klan march on Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C. 1928
1st: Suffragist Carrie Chapman Catt, 1859-1947. Teacher, journalist, founder of the League of Women Voters.
By the way, within all the racism in this excerpt, did you notice, the parts where she speaks about how white women were “deprived of education” (yes, that is irony) in the racist, sexist, chivalrous “Patriarchal” southern states? I did. And if you are not so feminist, you are not that surprised by how the “Patriarchy” used to work.
Anna Howard Shaw
5th: Suffragist Anna Howard Shaw, 1847-1919. Doctor, Methodist minister, president of the National Woman Suffrage Association.
6th: English Suffragists, played by Carey Mulligan, Meryl Streep, Anne Marie Duff and Romola Garai, in the movie Suffragettes, 2015:
Emmeline Pankhurst
The phrase, stamped in promo t-shirts above, has an actual historical origin. It’s from Emmeline Pankhurst in 1913, when she said:
Not without reason people speak of something called white feminism. And if you didn’t know what that is, here you have the synthesis of the arrogance, the shameless, extremely egoistic, false self-attribution of others’ true oppression, by the elitist white feminist. And you also know something else of importance: when it began. “White (racist) feminism”, just like “elitist” feminism, “man-hatred” feminism – even though there were exceptions to confirm the rule – is the original feminism, it’s core and soul.
And don’t forget, Emmeline, among other infamous facts about her, did not fight for the poorer women to have the vote (see 5th paragraph in this article and reference), and most certainly not for slaves.
7th. Suffragist Alva Belmont. Socialite, multimillionaire and president of the National Woman’s Party.
Madame Alva Belmont
It is the same essentialist and collectivist reasoning of any racist totalitarian, only applied to all men, instead of to ethnicity. It is presented raw, not as sophisticated – deceitful, misleading, dishonest, faulty, spurious, distorted – and backed by a myriad of pseudo-scientific feminist literature as we have today – but it is the very same reasoning of so many feminists today: power “in the hands of of men” (in the hands of one, or 0,8%, is already in the hands “of men”) is oppression; the more power in the hands of women, it doesn’t matter what kind of women, or how much power that means… is equality, it’s the smashing of “The Patriarchy”, the end of oppression; it is the best for the world! Or, in that one world, it is empowerment!
The idea of the presentation as a quiz came from this post by cafe.com.
And before someone complains: as racism and sexism are already a wide scope, eugenicist 1st wavers like Emily Murphy, Victoria Woodhull, (first woman candidate to president of the USA), Mary Stopes and the most commented, Margaret Sanger, were not included and appear in other articles (like this one).
In other articles, I intend to speak in depth how 1st wave feminism created an unprecedented form of parental alienation for fathers, their connections with suicides, mass murders (yes, I mean it) and how the now so polemic “gender ideology” – which many believe emerged with the 2nd wave, with the neomarxism (New Left/Frankfurt School/cultural marxism) and/or Simone de Beauvoir (World War 2) – was actually born in the 1st wave.
If you know what I (and others) know about feminism’s 1st wave of (“that good feminism”?), you will never see it the same way again.
Cheers from Brazil.
Aldir é educador e estudante. Tem diferentes interesses na vida e atualmente se dedica também ao ativismo por Direitos Humanos que incluam homens e meninos. É Editor-chefe da AVfM para o Brasil.
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Below there are just 7 quotes. Which of them are from a) suffragists, b) KKK members, and which are from c) modern times radical feminists? The answers will follow.Ready? Suffragists, KKK or radical feminists? Go!
1. Alien illiterates rule our cities today; the saloon is their palace, and the toddy stick their scepter. The colored race multiplies like the locusts of Egypt.Ready or not, the answers are coming next.
2. Better whiskey and more of it’ is the rallying cry of great, dark-faced mobs.
3. The safety of [white] women, of childhood, of the home is menaced in a thousand localities.
4. I will cut off this right arm of mine before I will ask for the ballot for the Negro and not for the woman.
5. Mr. Douglass talks about the wrongs of the Negro; but with all the outrages that he to-day suffers, he would not exchange his sex and take the place of Elizabeth Cady Stanton.
6. We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men
7. What will we and our daughters suffer if these degraded black men are allowed to have the rights that would make them even worse than our Saxon fathers?
Answers
1st, 2nd and 3rd: Suffragist Frances Elizabeth Caroline Willard, 1839 – 1898. President of the Woman’s Christian Temperance Union, founder of the National Council of Women.Alien illiterates rule our cities today; the saloon is their palace, and the toddy stick their scepter. The colored race multiplies like the locusts of Egypt.
Better whiskey and more of it’ is the rallying cry of great, dark-faced mobs.
The safety of women, of childhood, of the home is menaced in a thousand localities.
4th and 5th: Suffragist Susan Brownell Anthony, 1820-1906. Member of the Anti-Slavery Society, president of the American Woman Suffrage Association.
Right: Susan B. Anthony I will cut off this right arm of mine before I will ask for the ballot for the Negro and not for the woman.Suffragists already used the rhetorical tactic of presenting the situation of white women as not only equivalent, but even worse than that of the black slave. That was, on its face, an absurdity. But it’s easy to exploit with rhetoric the positive sexism toward women, bringing much greater empathy towards the white woman then the black man. And Anthony was an abolitionist, but… the problem is in that “but”, right?
Mr. Douglass talks about the wrongs of the Negro; but with all the outrages that he today suffers, he would not exchange his sex and take the place of Elizabeth Cady Stanton.
Speaking of the feminist’s rhetoric, should Mr. Douglass exchange his sex as any way to prove his points about “the wrongs of the negro”? And isn’t it interesting Anthony’s attempt to exclude Douglass being born in slavery with the word today? If today he is not a slave but an important national personality, what would he be so upset about, uh? Well… maybe he was concerned with the status of all black people and their future in the US?
Just a reminder of who that Mr. Douglass was, especially for non-Americans:
"The Right has no sex, the Truth has no color.” (Frederick Douglass)Certainly admirable words of a black people’s rights activist, not at all like the New Left, Post Modern, SJW’s who drive our hands to our faces today.
Frederick Douglass (1818–1895) escaped his life as a slave in Maryland after 2 failed attempts. It was then hard to believe that someone with his background could be such a brilliant orator, writer, and statesman. He became close friend of personalities such as Abraham Lincoln. He, however, died seeing black people having advanced very little in the civil equality he so passionately fought for.
This is the man who, according to fallacious pioneer feminist icon Susan B. Anthony, “would not exchange his sex” with her friend, Lady Elizabeth Cady Stanton.
Douglass was also friends with Stanton – but then, the proposal for the constitutional amend giving blacks the suffrage before white women came. That was when “suffragist” leaders showed their true colors for the historical record.
Right: Elizabeth Cady Stanton
Quotes 6 and 7: Suffragist Elizabeth Cady Stanton, 1815-1902. Who was another abolitionist suffragist who nevertheless “recognized the facts” about “the beastly negro men”.We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men.So, suffragists “only wanted and believed in equality”? You don’t say! With “Infinitely superior to men” and White supremacy! Bitch, please.
What will we and our daughters suffer if these degraded black men are allowed to have the rights that would make them even worse than our Saxon fathers?
Don’t be mislead by my sarcastic humor. This is ugly, and it is going to get worse.
Eager to see what blend of supremacist “drops of wisdom” I’ve got under my sleeve for you to sort out in Part 2?
Anthony and Stanton: The dawning of feminist sorority and its corruption.
Well, I have a surprise: Part 2 is right below too. Why not?Come back later, or see it all right away.
Quiz: Suffragists, Ku Klux Klan or Feminazis? Part 2
1. White supremacy will be strengthened, not weakened, by women’s suffrage.The answers are below.
2. The white men, reinforced by the educated white women, could ‘snow under’ the Negro vote in every State, and the white race would maintain its supremacy without corrupting or intimidating the Negroes.
3. I do not want to see a negro man walk to the polls and vote on who should handle my tax money, while I myself cannot vote at all…When there is not enough religion in the pulpit to organize a crusade against sin; nor justice in the court house to promptly punish crime; nor manhood enough in the nation to put a sheltering arm about innocence and virtue—if it needs lynching to protect woman’s dearest possession from the ravening human beasts—then I say lynch, a thousand times a week if necessary.
4.The enfranchisement of women would insure immediate and durable white supremacy, honestly attained; for, upon unquestionable authority, it is stated that “in every Southern State but one, there are more educated women than all the illiterate voters, white and black, native and foreign, combined.” As you probably know, of all the women in the South who can read and write, ten out of every eleven are white. When it comes to the proportion of property between the races, that of the white outweighs that of the black immeasurably. The South is slow to grasp the great fact that the enfranchisement of women would settle the race question in politics.
5. You have put the ballot in the hands of your black men, thus making them political superiors of white women. Never before in the history of the world have men made former slaves the political masters of their former mistresses!
6. I’d rather be a rebel than a slave.
7. Henceforth women are to be dictators. … The time has come to make this world muddle men have created and strive to turn it into an ordered, peaceful, happy abiding place for humanity.
Carrie Chapman Catt
White supremacy will be strengthened, not weakened, by women’s suffrage.Outstanding , Mrs. Catt! Who would not be convinced by this argument for women’s suffrage?
2: Suffragist Laura Clay, 1849-1940. Founder and president of the first suffragists’ group in Kentucky, the Kentucky Equal Rights Association. Active member of the Democratic Party, she was an important local, state and national leadership. First woman to be indicated as a candidate to president of the United States.
Laura Clay
The white men, reinforced by the educated white women, could ‘snow under’ the Negro vote in every State, and the white race would maintain its supremacy without corrupting or intimidating the Negroes.
The 3rd is from Suffragist Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, 1835-1930. Teacher, writer, prison reformist, first woman senator in the USA. Also, white supremacist and slave owner.
Rebecca Latimer Felton
“I do not want to see a negro man walk to the polls and vote on who should handle my tax money, while I myself cannot vote at all…When there is not enough religion in the pulpit to organize a crusade against sin; nor justice in the court house to promptly punish crime; nor manhood enough in the nation to put a sheltering arm about innocence and virtue—-if it needs lynching to protect woman’s dearest possession from the ravening human beasts—-then I say lynch, a thousand times a week if necessary.Yes, she was using the “where are the true men” routine. And yes, she was implying that white men lynching blacks, as she wanted them to, was what it meant “to be a man.”
4th: Suffragist Belle Kearney, 1863-1939. Speaker, writer, member of the Temperance Movement, teacher, State Senator in Mississipi.
Belle Kearney
The enfranchisement of women would insure immediate and durable white supremacy, honestly attained; for, upon unquestionable authority, it is stated that “in every Southern State but one, there are more educated women than all the illiterate voters, white and black, native and foreign, combined.” As you probably know, of all the women in the South who can read and write, ten out of every eleven are white. When it comes to the proportion of property between the races, that of the white outweighs that of the black immeasurably. The South is slow to grasp the great fact that the enfranchisement of women would settle the race question in politics. [see full speech in multiple sources].
By the way, within all the racism in this excerpt, did you notice, the parts where she speaks about how white women were “deprived of education” (yes, that is irony) in the racist, sexist, chivalrous “Patriarchal” southern states? I did. And if you are not so feminist, you are not that surprised by how the “Patriarchy” used to work.
5th: Suffragist Anna Howard Shaw, 1847-1919. Doctor, Methodist minister, president of the National Woman Suffrage Association.
You have put the ballot in the hands of your black men, thus making them political superiors of white women. Never before in the history of the world have men made former slaves the political masters of their former mistresses!
6th: English Suffragists, played by Carey Mulligan, Meryl Streep, Anne Marie Duff and Romola Garai, in the movie Suffragettes, 2015:
(photo: promo)
Emmeline Pankhurst I know that women, once convinced that they are doing what is right, that their rebellion is just, will go on, no matter what the difficulties, no matter what the dangers, so long as there is a woman alive to hold up the flag of rebellion. I would rather be a rebel than a slave. I would rather die than submit; and that is the spirit that animates this movement…..I mean to be a voter in the land that gave me birth or they shall kill me, and my challenge to the Government is: kill me or give me my freedom: I shall force you to make that choice.To add some perspective adjustment here: have you ever seen a slave, kept in submission, receive special treatment when committing crimes and then demand that their Masters die and/or kill, to be maimed or to dismember others, for the slave’s sake, because that is the least their “owners can” do? Well, there you have it. She would never, possibly, “rather be a rebel then a slave”, because she was not a slave; She was a Madam.
Not without reason people speak of something called white feminism. And if you didn’t know what that is, here you have the synthesis of the arrogance, the shameless, extremely egoistic, false self-attribution of others’ true oppression, by the elitist white feminist. And you also know something else of importance: when it began. “White (racist) feminism”, just like “elitist” feminism, “man-hatred” feminism – even though there were exceptions to confirm the rule – is the original feminism, it’s core and soul.
And don’t forget, Emmeline, among other infamous facts about her, did not fight for the poorer women to have the vote (see 5th paragraph in this article and reference), and most certainly not for slaves.
7th. Suffragist Alva Belmont. Socialite, multimillionaire and president of the National Woman’s Party.
Henceforth women are to be dictators. … The time has come to make this world muddle men have created and strive to turn it into an ordered, peaceful, happy abiding place for humanity.Belmont’s full text shows her sophistry, something like this: 1) There are dictators in the world; 2) And awful things as well; 3) Dictators, as politicial leaders in general, are almost always men; 4) Therefore, the world is this way because of men; 5) Men have always “oppressed women”; 6) Enough of men concentrating power in their hands; 7) And how will we make this world marvellous? 8) With women dictators, of course!!!
It is the same essentialist and collectivist reasoning of any racist totalitarian, only applied to all men, instead of to ethnicity. It is presented raw, not as sophisticated – deceitful, misleading, dishonest, faulty, spurious, distorted – and backed by a myriad of pseudo-scientific feminist literature as we have today – but it is the very same reasoning of so many feminists today: power “in the hands of of men” (in the hands of one, or 0,8%, is already in the hands “of men”) is oppression; the more power in the hands of women, it doesn’t matter what kind of women, or how much power that means… is equality, it’s the smashing of “The Patriarchy”, the end of oppression; it is the best for the world! Or, in that one world, it is empowerment!
Conclusions
Among other self-evidences,- 1st wave feminists did not want, believe or stand for, “just equality, freedom and dignity for all”.
- The feminist leaders of the 1st wave were from socially and financially privileged backgrounds, and in more than one opportunity turned their back on people who were suffering, who they deceived posing as champions for those people. They did it for sheer self-interest and disdain for others.
- Even abolitionist feminist leaders showed themselves to be hardcore hateful racists facing the possibility of black men coming to have the suffrage before they did.
- As women, these “suffragists” believed in female supremacy; as white women, they believed in white supremacy; with the same hatefulness and intolerance of any hate movement. Therefore,
- “Suffragists” does not describe what 1st wave feminist was. To call them just “suffragists” is as misleading as describing Tripoli Clinton and Barack Obama as merely political leaders coming from minority groups and full of love for their countries.
- They were far from being a peaceful movement.
The idea of the presentation as a quiz came from this post by cafe.com.
And before someone complains: as racism and sexism are already a wide scope, eugenicist 1st wavers like Emily Murphy, Victoria Woodhull, (first woman candidate to president of the USA), Mary Stopes and the most commented, Margaret Sanger, were not included and appear in other articles (like this one).
In other articles, I intend to speak in depth how 1st wave feminism created an unprecedented form of parental alienation for fathers, their connections with suicides, mass murders (yes, I mean it) and how the now so polemic “gender ideology” – which many believe emerged with the 2nd wave, with the neomarxism (New Left/Frankfurt School/cultural marxism) and/or Simone de Beauvoir (World War 2) – was actually born in the 1st wave.
If you know what I (and others) know about feminism’s 1st wave of (“that good feminism”?), you will never see it the same way again.
Cheers from Brazil.
Article fist published on AVFM in Portuguese.
Color photos of the Ku Klux Klan: Martin, EUA.
Historic photos: Pulic Domain, by various authors.
About Aldir Gracindo
Aldir é educador e estudante. Tem diferentes interesses na vida e atualmente se dedica também ao ativismo por Direitos Humanos que incluam homens e meninos. É Editor-chefe da AVfM para o Brasil.Edited by AA
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