AI Whistleblower Tells Tucker How AI Could Kill All Humans By 2040

Tucker Carlson: Nate Soares is a computer scientist who’s worked at Google and the Defense Department. So when he says AI is on the path to killing every person on earth, it’s worth hearing him out.

Nate Soares is President of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute (MIRI), where he has led AI safety research for more than a decade following engineering roles at Google and Microsoft.

He is the co-author, alongside Eliezer Yudkowsky, of the New York Times bestselling book If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All (2025), which argues that the current race to develop super intelligent AI will end catastrophically unless humanity globally coordinates to stop it.

Nate has published extensively on AI alignment, including foundational work on decision theory, goal specification, and the incentives that drive advanced AI systems to seek power in ways their creators neither anticipate nor intend.